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You’re Not Stuck, You’re Afraid of Being Judged, with Robin Clare

J.V. Episode 28

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What if the real reason you’re not moving forward has nothing to do with your ability and everything to do with the fear of being judged?

In episode 28 of The Influence Exchange, we dive into a conversation that hits deeper than most people are willing to admit, Fear of judgment. Not just from others, but the pressure, the expectations, and the self-doubt that quietly hold you back from showing up fully.

In This Episode, We Talk About:

Why fear of judgment is more powerful than failure

How judgment shows up in your life (without you realizing it)

The difference between real judgment and someone’s opinion

Why waiting for approval keeps you stuck

The internal vs external version of yourself (and why alignment matters)

How self-leadership and awareness change everything

Letting go of perfection and learning to show up anyway

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Robin's Akashic Harmony Message: https://www.robinhclare.com/akashicharmonymessage

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SPEAKER_01

What if the only thing holding you back is the fear of being judged? Today's guest has spent years helping people break free from that fear and step into a life of true alignment and purpose. Robin Clare is the author of Harmony, the Frequency of True Success, where she shares a powerful framework built on awareness, commitment, and self-leadership, all rooted in her own journey of overcoming struggle, shame, and self-judgment. Her message is simple but powerful. Real success isn't just about what you achieve on the outside. It's about who you become on the inside. If you ever felt stuck, held back, or afraid to fully show up as yourself, this conversation is for you. Please join me in welcoming Robin Claire. Let's get into it. Hello, Robin, and thank you for joining the Influence Exchange. I'm happy that you're here with us today. How are you?

SPEAKER_00

I'm great, JV. How are you today?

SPEAKER_01

I'm doing fantastic. It's beautiful outside. It's finally getting warmer here on the East Coast, and it's it's great. I'm I'm happy. How are things with you coming along?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, good. Me too. I it is funny too. Today I was driving to work and I'm like, okay, like I think I still have PTSD from winter. This was an incredibly cold winter, like at times. When I was walking the dog, it was like negative 26. And then I'm thinking, wow, it's April. Like we we have way until the beginning of next year before we're freezing again. So I was just, I remembered that it was April. And I was like, yes, it's just the beginning of beautiful weather.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. And next week, I think it's going back down to the 50s. Anyways. Okay, I'll take that. Exactly. Exactly. So let's dive in. I would love to talk about your harmony and the frequency of true success. How did that come to life?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So it's interesting too because, and I I'm sharing this with the audience because I'm sort of, you know, I've been looking at my marketing and thinking, you know, what is it right? Is my marketing right around this? And are people really like, can they they say in marketing people should be able to like, honor, and trust you? And I'm thinking, am I telling enough about myself? And one of the things that you and I have in common, which we discovered when we met the last time, is that we both have this somewhat of a fear of judgment.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

And so for me, this fear of judgment, and I can talk about my experience in my along my journey, has um stopped me from almost 100% being committed to my work. And so I find I just I'm working on what where's where am I stopping? Where's the commitment stopped for me? Um, and what am I afraid of? And so I um I I have a had a normal life, you know, being in uh a mom and corporate America and all of that, but hidden in the back was a 40-year um addiction to obsessive eating and bulimia. And so I came to discover that throughout my life, I have had a tremendous experience with judgment and shame. And even when I took a piece of paper and I wrote them all down, I was like, yes, that's judgment. Yes, that's judgment. And so even bulimia is a form of self-judgment, right? You're you're punishing yourself for overeating. And so once I decided that I need to really come into recovery, that journey uh was twofold. I did a you know, the traditional psychotherapy journey, but I also went on the spiritual journey. And what I discovered in all of that, I started writing books about my spiritual journey and the things that I was learning. And there's sort of a progression, the five books, until this book, um Harmony, which is my latest book, Harmony, the Frequency of True Success. And I realized that the harmony method, which maybe we'll dive into a little bit more, but it's six, six elements. It's when you have awareness in your life, and my awareness is was that if I didn't stop doing bulimia, I probably was going to die from it because I started bleeding from my face and I could feel like my head exploding, and I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do something here. And so awareness that you have to change, and then the second one is commitment. How how committed are you? How devoted are you to the change that you're trying to make in your life? And then mastery is learning what you need to understand in order to make that change stick. So the mastery is the embodiment of the teachings, the services, what am I going to do with this information? For me, it was writing books about it. And then leadership is the fifth one, and that's about self-leadership. Am I walking the walk of recovery? When someone looks at me, do they do they think, oh, she's she's she's exemplifying someone who's in recovery? So that to me, once I can, once I can honor my own self-leadership, then I could be a leader to others. But you can't really be an effective leader if you're not in self-leadership. You think you can, but you really can't. And then the last one is freedom, and that's the alignment of all the work you've done on the inner world, and you're able to express that in your outer world through living up your purpose or and even if it's not your purpose, it's just what you see is what you get, like who you are on the inner world is who everybody sees on the outer world, and that's the freedom. And then that's where success comes in because you're living without angst in your life, and that whole frequency of all of those working together is living in a state of harmony. And I didn't realize that when I first discovered those six elements, I thought it was the secret to a successful spiritual life. But in my mind, I kept saying, I think this is the secret to success in anything. Absolutely aware of commitment, mastery, service, leadership, and freedom. And it turns out it is. And so that's why I'm on this podcast journey because I think that people, if they follow it even in looking for a new job, in their relationships, in finishing an art project that they want to do, finishing household improvements, their medical journey, right? Like you have to, you have to be committed to that and you have to do all the things, right?

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And you and all of that, so everything in life, I think I can say that ultimately we all want to live in harmony. We want to be peaceful on the inside and peaceful on the outside. And in today's uh environment with our political environment and all the things that are going on, I think harmony is more important than ever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, Robin. Thank you for sharing that.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Robin, how can someone practice the six elements?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I think it's really learning them and then deciding what's important to you.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Right? Like what do you want to do and how do you want to accomplish? And recognizing that you may be in disharmony.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Right? First and foremost, does is your inner world connected to your outer world? And someone's saying, What that's so woo-woo or whatever, but it's it's really not. It's really not. Like, are you able to be proud of the person you are on the inside and then project that on the outside? And if there's a disconnect there, if there's a disconnection between inner world and outer world, then you are not in harmony and you're in disharmony. Now, you could say to me, and then in a weird example, I don't even know why I'm bringing it out. That is a nasty person on the inside and a nasty person on the outside. And maybe one could say, well, they're in harmony. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Right. Right? Right? They've decided that this is who they're going to be on the inside, and they're, and they're going to let everybody know it on the outside. Now you could be the nicest person on the outside, but eating your guts out on the inside.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Right? Or you could be fine on the inside, but you have no what you don't know how to live your life on the outside world that's in alignment with that beautiful, your own beautiful inner nature. And so what I'm hoping to do through the harmony movement is to have people be able to find and have the tools that they need so that who they want to be internally aligns with who they get to be externally. And it doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want, or you know, sometimes you have jobs that uh sometimes you have jobs that um it's not about your purpose, it's about making a living. But you really want to do that with the best possible attitude that you can, or else you're just gonna be miserable.

SPEAKER_01

Sure. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Robin, you you mentioned earlier of judgment, and you and I are aligned, absolutely. Yes. And for the audience, I've I've said this, you know, numerous of times on on my podcast. It took me three years to, excuse me, three years to create the influence exchange. And the reason why it took so long, because I was afraid, deep inside afraid of being judged. What will people think of me just creating content and why? And that took so long, and I to this day I'm confused on why it took so long. I should have easily said three years ago, who cares? Let me let me just do what I had to do. And I finally have three years later, I'm happy that I'm started my podcast, but why not three years ago? And that's that's still in my mind to this day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because judgment, judgment is um, first of all, we are judged all the time, even as babies and and um children, right? And we have siblings that judge us, and then we have teachers that judge us, and then we have relationships that judge us, and then we have bosses that judge us. Like, there's no way that you can get through life without being judged.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

The question is, how are you going to let it affect you? And I think I shared previously that what what what would enabled me to move through this fear of judgment was that I realized that no one can judge me unless I give them the title of judge.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Otherwise, they're just giving me their opinion. And how I react to it is I guess it depends on who's saying it. Sometimes I can I can be like, okay, well, thank you for your opinion. Other times I'm not as nice as that.

SPEAKER_03

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

It depends on who's saying it, right? But if I don't give them the title of judge, it's can't be judgment. And one of the things I learned, I read a wonderful book that really helped me with this. It was called The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks. And the book said that we all have a state of brilliance, and that's what we know we're good at, right? We know we're good at it. So no matter what anybody says, we know we're good at it. But our soul is here, embodied in our body, to live our genius, right? And our genius is what what did our soul intend for this lifetime? What how are we truly supposed to serve and lead? Right? What is our mastery that we're supposed to have? And in between our brilliance and our genius is this level of self-doubt and this level of, it's like a protection level of our soul's genius. And for me, it was judgment. Because once I moved through that, then I was able to stand in the power of my teachings. And what I shared earlier with your audience, I'm really looking at that because there's a certain peace left. Now, life is a spiral. You have to look at it like a spiral. So someone with the beginning of the spiral, you could have worked on judgment. I could have worked on judgment, and then we're like, okay, I got that. And then about then the spiral goes around again, and maybe on the second inner turn, you're like, uh-oh, judgment. Oh my god, I feel like crap. Right. And so we're constantly, you know, doing the work so that we can um understand that judgment is going to show up again. But the difference between the first time it comes up and the fourth time it comes up is that every time we look at it, we put out the emotional charge associated with it. And more and more, it's like we're blowing out a candle of emotion. And so the more we look at it, the more we can say, okay, well, there it is. It's not going away. Bad memories don't go away. Things that happen to us don't go away, but it's how we feel about them that determines how much impact they're gonna have on us as life goes on. And so for me now, judgment, I, you know, I I have way different ways of looking at judgment because I also want to know why is someone judging me? Is there something that I need to do differently that is changing them? And yet there's also that expression that what you think about me is none of my business.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

It's a powerful expression. I can't control what you think of me. So why do I make it my business to understand why you think a certain way about me unless it's someone really important to you? And maybe you're saying, I we really respect that person, and if they're saying that about me, more than likely it's about them, right?

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

But what if it is about me? And is this something that I want to think about and change? But most of the time when people are in your face, it's about them, not you.

SPEAKER_02

Right. To make themselves feel better.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and and that's part of you know not judging. So um one of the things we did in preparation for this is we did an an Akashic Harmony message, which is my tool to help people move forward in their life. And one of the things that I loved is in the in the in the report where it said sometimes the anticipation of judgment can carry more weight than the judgment itself. And the awareness of that, the awareness of the anticipation was like it's almost like we know awareness, like awareness, we want to be in awareness and we want to move forward and it's this wonderful thing, but the awareness of the anticipation could be a really good growth tool for someone, right? Like you're you're expecting it because why are you expecting it? Because it's been happening your whole life. Judgment and shame it's it's just one of those things that no one gets through life without. And it's just we have an awareness of it, right? We have an awareness that it's something that we have to um to not overly respond to. But I loved in your report where it called it the anticipation of it, because that can really knock you off off the journey, right? Because you're waiting for it. And so I'm I was hoping you saw that in there, that we can't be waiting for judgment, but when it comes, we can we can look at it in it through a mature lens.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yes, yes and and for the audience that's watching on YouTube, I have the report right in my hands. And if you're listening, please tone tune into YouTube to seat. Here's the report.

SPEAKER_00

So I want to talk about what it is. The so so one of the tools that I developed is something called the Akashic Harmony Message, and it's a report. And and you can go onto my website and ask a question, and then a report comes out. Uh, you know, it takes me a couple of days to produce a report, but I want to talk about the elements of it. So it's called the Akashic Harmony Message. So we we talked a lot about harmony and we're looking at the elements, but what is the Akashic part? I think that's interesting for people. So the Akashic records, I am an Akashic record reader. Um, I was guided to study that. It's actually a calling to the records. And the records are the information that are of our souls, uh, of our lifetimes from past, present, and even future lifetimes. And so it's information that's sitting what they call the Akashic field. So if you're familiar with the chakras, we have seven chakras, you know, the energetic um uh systems within within our field of energy.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and all of this is based on the idea that we are a soul being having a human being experience. Right. If you don't believe that, then what I'm saying is gonna not even resonate at all. And so we have these, so we have our soul's energy, our energetic field around us and through us. And there are seven uh centers throughout the body, all the way up to the top of the head. And so we have the first grounded chakra all the way to the seventh, which is our connection to the divine realm. But our eighth chakra that people don't talk about, which is 18 inches above the head, is the Akashic field. And so it's like when we pass away and our soul leaves the body, it stops at the Akashic, at the library. They call it the library, the Akashic Records, and it deposits all the things that happened in this lifetime. And then when we're going to reincarnate into our body, we stop in the records and say, what is it that we really want to learn? And who, who do we want to bring in with us? Who's who from our soul family? So for example, I always tease, I would always tease my mom because she was like my nemesis around body image. And she would just say stuff to me that just would like, I'd be like, Mike, can't talk to me like that. I have an, you know, I have a disorder. And she'd be like, well, whatever. And and finally, like, we had to agree to disagree that we would never talk about it. And then finally, finally, I had to come into the understanding that this is she agreed to come here with me and drive me nuts on the soul level so that I could learn about healing from my addiction, come into recovery, write these five books, develop the harmony method, and come on JV's show.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

That's why she came into this lifetime. Right.

SPEAKER_02

I love it.

SPEAKER_00

And then so I had to have radical acceptance of my mom that she's just doing the job that I asked her to do because we, in my teachings that I've learned, we choose our parents before we get here. They don't just make us, you know, it we choose them because they're the most influential beings that will influence our soul's journey in this lifetime. And so my mom just had a doozy of a job because I really needed to come into long term recovery so that I could move beyond my fear of judgment and be a speaker and a writer and teach people uh and make an impact on large audiences.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

And who would have thought that, right? This little girl that my mom Kept putting on a diet at six years old, right? She did my mom have any idea that it would lead to this? Absolutely not. But she was just doing her job. So if you're struggling, you know, to your audience with a parent that drives you crazy, know that this is all part of the plan. Yes. For you to recognize why what your what your soul's journey is here. Mine is to be a public speaker, and mine is to in to make people have a better life through this. And if you have a fear of judgment, you can't manage a podcast and you can't be a public speaker. And so that's why I say we have so much in common because we have a bigger thing that we want to accomplish, bigger things that we want to do, and we have to just put judgment in its proper perspective.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Absolutely. That's great. Great. Robin, how can families, workspaces, or even communities benefit from learning to live in harmony?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I think it all starts with leadership.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Um I've been looking at, I've been, I've been doing some posting on LinkedIn, right? I've been looking at the har the business harmony within business. Sure. And what I've discovered is that if if if you have leadership that is disconnected, they don't believe in the mission. They're just there to make a buck.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

And they don't care about people, you cannot expect your staff or your workers to believe in the mission either. And so that disconnect, you can I think business is one of the easiest places you can see it, right? Um because because if if if the if the bosses don't believe it, what what is the val where do where do you expect your staff to? And so I also run a nonprofit organization where I am very much engaged in in uh the mission of our nonprofit, which is to help people 50 and older have encore careers so that they can stay vibrant and healthy and financially secure. And um, my staff knows it. Like they know that I am completely committed to that um to to the mission. And I think it uh it gives them the space to be committed. And then what we're able to achieve is pretty darn special because we're what what we produce on the outside comes from a united inner commitment to the mission and to and to making sure that our customers are satisfied and happy. And then you can't help but be successful then, unless you have a crappy product, right? Yeah, yeah, that's much easier to fix, right? Or you're served, you're you know, I'm I'm I'm putting um working on a wedding for one of my children, and I'm I'm really getting like a real good view of people's customer service ethic um as I'm trying to make all these plans. And when I get someone who I know is into their job, I'm so excited. Right because then they're excited, they have a passion and they're excited about my daughter's wedding, and then we're laughing, and it's getting done, and um and then and then there's other people I have to schmooze into being passionate about it, you know, and just uh but it's I don't know what it is, I don't understand, and I I guess have I had jobs that I don't like? Probably. Sure. Yeah, we are probably yes, and so maybe my attitude wasn't the best, but it's very interesting watching people today who are not I I can tell right away when someone's when someone is disconnected from their job, because every word that comes out of their mouth, you can hear it. And every delay in sending you an email and short little sentences that don't answer your questions, you know, and then I call them and then God forbid that, right? I call, I call them.

SPEAKER_02

Right, delay explode.

SPEAKER_00

Why are you calling me?

unknown

Why are they calling me?

SPEAKER_00

Right. I'm like, it would be easier for me to spend three minutes with you on the phone than go back and forth in an email 20 times.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And they're like, okay, and then by the end, they're good, it's off their plate, but um again, it's that disconnection. They don't maybe they're having maybe they don't feel good about themselves, right? And then that goes to work. And so, um, yeah, so in the family, again, who's committed to the family? Like are are are both parents got two feet in the relation in their relationship, right? That has a huge impact on the children.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely, right?

SPEAKER_00

And so again, it's are you where you want to be? Right? Truly are you where you want to be. Do you want to be in this relationship? Is it important enough to to make it work? I've been married for I'll be married for 37 years.

SPEAKER_02

I love it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and we have had so many ups and downs, right? You know, job losses, you know, family loss, all these different things, medical situations. But the bottom line is that we love each other dearly, and we're both committed to the relationship.

SPEAKER_02

I love that.

SPEAKER_00

And so who we are on the inner world is reflected in the outer world.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

And that's required for long-term relationships. So, and we do a lot of talking about it, and much maybe to my husband's chagrin, but um but we do because we have to, you know, we have to know where the where where the other one is.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and what's going on. And so um again, I think that helps the family if if everyone is is committed.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Fully. Fully committed. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's important. Right. So, Robin, um what surprised you about mastery service and leadership in recovery?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, in recovery.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So, mastery, if we look at the recovery process, awareness is maybe I've hit rock bottom, which I did, which I did. I knew that if I kept doing the bulimia, that I would, I would have popped a gasket, I think, or something, maybe had a stroke or something like that. So I I had this awareness that I needed to come into recovery. Then commitment was how am I going to do that? Who's gonna be my team? Right? And and and how am I, and who am I gonna bring in from my family, from the professional world, my friends? Who's gonna become my team of people that I can count on, right? To help me do this. And then the commitment also came, and maybe this is part of the mastery. I realized that beyond learning concepts that you learn, like in the 12-step program, to me, I I interviewed when I wrote my fourth book, which is called Feast and Famine: Healing Addiction with Grace, I interviewed a lot of people that were in long-term for recovery from decades.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

And I wanted to understand what made them be able to stay in long-term recovery. And one of the things that they said is that they were living in a state of congruence, this congruence of mind, body, spirit, and emotion. And that recovery was the integration of all four of those. And so it wasn't just something you talked about, it was something that you developed as a spiritual practice. You went to the gym, you ate well, you went to therapy, right? Mind, body, spirit, emotion, right? You talked about what trauma from your past was impact impacting you. What what what are your trauma patterns and how do you heal those? And um, and you you sometimes you're very surprised at what was traumatic and what wasn't, right? Sure. Um, I'll just give a quick little example. My dad, when we were six years old, there were six kids, and we my dad had just washed his car, and somebody put their hand on the car, and my father lined us all up, and we all put our little hands on there, and mine matched the most. And my dad's like, well, you're gonna be punished because you put your dirty hand, and I was like, I did not. And my mom I screamed for hours and hours. I didn't do it, I didn't do it, I didn't do it, and I was devastated that my dad, who was so important to me, didn't believe me and called me a liar, right? What or whatever I, you know, however you want to look at it, but the idea that the person who was the most important to me didn't believe me was devastating to me. And it was humiliating, right? And I was judged, right? So that's the earliest time I remember being judged and feeling humiliated and feeling shame. But would someone else have looked at it that way? I don't know, but that's the mastery because I had to dive in and see what was that pattern and how do I heal it? And uh you're I will say that these things that need to be healed, these trauma, they come up all the time. You could be just washing dishes and you'll remember something like, Oh, I don't want to put my my dad said I put my hand on the car. Those are part of your trauma pattern and they need to be looked at and you need to put the emotional charge out. And so that's mastery and and committing to understanding and living the integration of my body, spirit, and emotion so that you can stay in long-term recovery, because any one of those can knock you out of recovery. And then service was how do I share this with the world? Like, how do I I lear I've learned so much? And that was writing the book, Feast and Famine, Healing Addiction with Grace, coming on podcasts, talking about this, and leadership is am I walking, am I the walking example of someone in long-term recovery? Do I do I know myself? Do I know my my pros and my cons? Do I live try not to judge myself or others? So I'm living in self-leadership so that I can be the example. And then the freedom is this wonderful place where I'm I'm enjoying all the work that I've done in my inner world, and then I'm able to, and and I've done a lot of healing and I feel very calm and peaceful, and then I can exude that in the in the world. Because people say that to me all the time. How do you stay so peaceful? And I want to say, because I've done the work, right? I've I've looked at my trauma, I've healed it the best that I can until it comes up again, right? In some other way, or or I just am having a bad day. And I mean, I'm not saying I'm perfect, JV. It's just that I now have skills to be able to cope and to to teach.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

From a place of experience.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Robin, how does harmony redefine success for high functioning achievement driven people?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm gonna say high functioning driven people, they probably don't have time to understand what's going on in their inner world. And I'm so they're very because they're so driven on the external world.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Right? And so I what I want to say to them is if you were took the time to look internally and find out what are your true values and where um where what do you need to heal in your life, and how can you become more solid and more confident internally so that the confidence and the drive that you have on the inside on the outside is in alignment with who you are as a person, your people who you need to help you be successful in your world will start to really respect you, respect the brand and work harder and help you be even more successful. And then you'll feel better because you're not uh having all this anxiety because you're in personal alignment. Because I imagine that that type of drive creates a lot of anxiety in someone's life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely. How did awareness and commitment look in the darkest seasons of someone, for example?

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, awareness is is the first step.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

And when you are become aware of something in your life that's um out of alignment, that's not fun.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

It's never fun to realize, oh my God, this isn't working, or I'm not the person I thought I was, or you're not the person I thought you were. Right? Right. Awareness, awareness is not for the faint of heart, right? Awareness is for someone who's saying, It matters to me that my life is better. And because it matters to me that my life is better, I need to be in awareness so that I can remove the things from my life that are not working or create capacity to change them, sure, so that you can create the life that you truly want. And this cre the creation of the life you truly want starts with commitment and the devotion to change. Because I I I think commitment and devotion in the Harmony Method are synonymous. So when you think of devotion, that's a lot um more powerful than commitment. Right? Commitment to me, for some reason, commitment is like trying.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Like there's no trying, right? If you're committed to something, but when you're devoted to something, you're not trying, right? You're devoted. So I I like the word I like the word devotion in in the harmony method because I believe that when you're truly saying it matters to me. Um, and how do you know that something really matters to you when you be when you because you could become aware of something and say, uh, you know, I'm sorry, but that really doesn't matter to me. I don't care that you're that way. I accept you for who you are. Um, I remember saying to my daughter, when I met my husband, you know, and um I we eat we all have uh things that the other might not love about them, right? But you got to find the things that you really have in common. But there's a lot of things you're like, oh my god, why do they do that? Right. Of course. And I remember saying to myself, will I be able in 30 years from now, will I, will I still, will I still be like, I don't like that, but I'm okay with it?

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, when we hit our 30th anniversary, I pulled out the list because I wrote them down and I'm like, oh look, he's still doing that. And I don't like it, but I don't care. Like, there's so many other things that I love about him that that were way more important to me than these things. And so um, so that's commitment, right? That's devotion. And um, and yes, it's not, it's not awareness and commitment are not for the faint of heart. When you become aware of something, you have decisions you need to make.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Right, about your life and what you want to do. Now, awareness can be really fun, right? You could you could be like, wow, I I'm aware that it is really important for me to travel to Portugal. Like, there's something I feel connected about Portugal. I want to go there and study and you know, travel. And so then that's fun, right? And so you're like, all right, what do I need to do to get to Portugal? What's the commitment? And the mastery is how do I save enough money, right? What are the plans I'm making? Right. Things like that. Um so I I think you just can see the harmony method in whatever you're working on so that your life can be more joyful and more fulfilled.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Robin, if a listener takes one simple action after hearing the conversation, what would you want it to be?

SPEAKER_00

I would want them to figure out how they can listen to their soul.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Because it's the s our soul that's guiding us with the awareness. And so, what is it that you can do to get quiet so you can hear your soul whispering to you, to bringing you awareness of changes that you need to make or that or you can make. I don't think you necessarily need to, because we have free will. You don't have to do it. So what so I always want people to so for me, uh, when when my children were little and I and there was no place for quiet reflection, I would actually wash the dishes at night. I would fill the sink with soap, and I knew nobody was coming to help me. They were too little.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And my husband was bait, you know, helping them with baths, and I could just sit there in the warm, soapy water and think about my life and what do I want to do? And what is what does my soul want me to know? But there's even a simpler way. That was just how I did it. Every day, have a journal and a piece of paper. You know, a journal is a piece of paper, and a pen, and and really I say handwrite it, you know, hand use your pen and ask the same question every day for five minutes. You know, write for five minutes. What does my soul want me to know today? It's a very simple exercise. And once you put that pen close to the paper, it's actually you'll start writing. Like you, because what you don't want to do is really think about it, right? It's not in your head, it's coming from your heart. Everything that we know in intuitively, our intuitive, our intuition is our soul talking to us.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so everything that's in our heart is our soul language. And so don't even go into your head like, oh my God, what am I gonna write? Is it gonna be good? I don't know. What's wrong with me? You know, I gotta go grocery shopping, right? You want you want to stay out of there, and you just want to give your soul, your heart, five minutes every day to write whatever it wants. And sometimes it'll be profound, and sometimes it'll be I don't have anything to write. Or I need to call my mother today, right? But other times it'll be it, other times it'll be return to your meditation practice, right? Call, call, um, call J V, and you'll be like, okay, because JV must have something to tell me, right? Like it is what it is, but it's it's it begins a practice of connection to your heart, which is the portal to your soul.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right, right. So, Robin, I always like to end my interviews um asking one final question. So, what final thoughts or message would you like to share with the world?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I always have I have this sign on my desk. When someone asks me that, you know, we're so worried about. Success, right? And and the harmony method is about success. But my favorite quote is, and I it's an unknown person who said this, but my favorite quote is what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail?

SPEAKER_01

Repeat that one more time, please.

SPEAKER_00

What would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? Like then the world becomes your oyster, right? It's actually you it's probably backwards when I do this, but it sits right in front of me. This a little box was a mug in there, mug in there at some point. Yes. I keep this right in front of me because it it allows me to dream big, to be bold, be audacious in what I'm trying to create and say, and be, you know, and again, I t I told everybody that I'm looking at there's there's a little twinge of a lack of commitment that I'm feeling. And I want to understand why, because I am here, you are here, JV, all the listeners are here to fulfill their soul's destiny. And you just you have to listen because if you're not listening to your soul, you're not gonna know what it is.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

And um and if you can listen and know that you can't fail, yes, right? Because failure is subjective, failure is you typically other people are defining it. And you know, if if I if I am proof of anything, it's that you know, I was in addiction for 40 years. That's a long time. That's that's you know, two-thirds of of my life.

SPEAKER_02

Sure.

SPEAKER_00

And um but with the proper commitment, you can move and and knowing that the you need the mastery and you're willing to serve, right? How do you take what you've learned and tell others? How do you walk the walk? Right? How do you walk? What does it mean to be someone in recovery? How do you set that example? And then of course the freedom, which is the deliciousness of that who what you see is what you get. Who I am here will be the same person I am when I go downstairs and and talk to my husband, right? Or call one of my kids, right? It's it's the same person, and that's hard to achieve, but it is achievable by doing the work um and getting to truly know your soul and your and the impact that it wants to have here, and to live in your genius, right? Like how what are you here to do and how do you accomplish it? And that's what I love to do with clients and and talk about that. What is it that you're really truly here to do? And in your Akashic Harmony message, it was very clear you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. You just have to be patient with yourself. There was one more thing that really um you had questioned, and I I'm looking at it, hold on. You had a feeling that sometimes you're lost. Yes. Being lost at times. And I love in the message, it said, it often appears the feeling of being lost at times is not a sign that you are off track. It often appears when you are in between versions of clarity. That's very profound, right? Like I love it. We're moving from one uh one point of clarity to the next. Or I used to say we're moving from one present moment to the next present moment. So even if something not wonderful is happening in this present moment, you're just one present moment away from the opportunity for things to be better.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And that's really if you can see it that way, that this is just happening right now, but in one moment from now, life can be better if I if I choose that to be my attitude.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Robin, you've been awesome. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, JD. Thank you for your thank you for sharing the judgment journey with me. Absolutely, thank you.

SPEAKER_01

I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and everybody else that struggles with that.

SPEAKER_01

Right. And if you're watching on YouTube or listening to this podcast, please review the episode description of where to find Robin. I will be posting her websites, her books, everything about Robin will be posted. Again, Robin, thank you for your time. I truly, truly appreciate it. And I can't wait to have another interview with you.

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Take care.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, thank you, JD. You too. Bye-bye.

SPEAKER_01

Bye-bye. Before I go, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for pressing play. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching on YouTube. I truly appreciate you taking the time to be here with me. And if you're watching this on YouTube, make sure you hit the subscribe button. And if you're listening on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or any other platform, follow the podcast so you don't miss out on the next episode. Because we're going to keep having real, honest conversations like this. And remember, your influence grows every time you choose courage over comfort. I'm JV. Stay curious, stay consistent, and keep influencing others. Peace out.