From Loss to Reinvention: How You Rebuild When Life Breaks You, with Chanoa Inez

What if the hardest moment in your life wasn’t the end, but the beginning of who you’re meant to become?

In episode 26 of The Influence Exchange, I sit down with Chanoa Inez, who shares a powerful and deeply personal journey through loss, grief, and rebuilding her life from the inside out.

After experiencing an unexpected and life-altering loss, Chanoa found herself navigating not just grief, but identity, purpose, and the relationship she had with herself. What followed wasn’t a quick fix. It was years of reflection, growth, and learning how to truly rebuild.

This conversation goes beyond surface-level advice. We talk about what it actually takes to move forward when life doesn’t go as planned and how self-love isn’t just a concept, but a foundation for everything.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, lost, or unsure of your next step, this episode will speak to you.

Chanoa’s website: https://www.chanoainez.com/

Buy Chanoa’s book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FCYF7DJ4

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

What if the hardest moments in your life weren't the end, but the beginning of who you're meant to become? Today's guest, Shinoa Inez, has lived through loss, grief, and rebuilding and turned that journey into a powerful message about self-love, resilience, and rediscovering joy. She's a former co-writer and strategist who transformed her personal experiences into a book designed to help others break free, fulfill their stuff, and start living again. Her work focuses on something many people struggle with but really understand the relationship you have with yourself and how that shaped everything in your life. If you ever felt lost, held back, or unsure how to move forward, this conversation will reunite with you. Please join me in welcoming today's guest, Shanoer Inez. Let's get into it. Hello, Shinoa, and thank you for joining the Influence Exchange. Thank you for taking time out of your day and meeting here with us today. How are you?

SPEAKER_01 1:21

I'm good, JV. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

It's a pleasure. Thank you. So, Shinoa, after 14 years of working as a copywriter and strategist, you decided to create your book and write author your book of Dream On. Let's dive into that a little bit and explain the journey and the mindset behind it, please.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Yeah, um, it's not a path I thought I was going to take. Um, but uh I'll I'll re-reverse. So I started my copywriting and strategy business um first just copywriting uh as a sidekick. And when I went to Montenegro, I fell in love with it. I went on vacation with my boyfriend at the time. We lived together in Miami, and I didn't want to come back. So we agreed that we would move there the next summer to stay. And so I was going to convert my copywriting business to be full-time. So I had a year to build that up. So uh that did work out career wise. But unfortunately, um the day, you know, our our first day um on the next summer, the summer that we went there to move. It was rather magical. It was a first-time my life up until that point that I felt like everything was just perfect. There were no I had no problems in my life. Like everything was just aligned. And we had a rather magical day. Um, unfortunately, in the morning I woke up, but he did not. And it was just a shock, as you can imagine.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

Um, you know, in your 20s, somebody tells you, you know, to look out. You know, you it's the last thing you think about. It's not like, you know, a couple in the last chapter chapter of their lives. So it was very jarring to me. And um, I decided to stay in Europe because I felt happier there um at that time. I know I knew I wanted to leave Miami, I just didn't know where I wanted to go. And it was interesting because, you know, it was very stop and go, right? Grief is very uh it's kind of a windy road. You can feel good today and then you know, the opposite a few days later. So the first years were kind of hard and uh not kind of hard, very hard. But then when I got to a place where I felt like I'd gotten past the grief, like obviously I've always grieved that loss that he's not here. But I got felt like I got to a place of strength. So I just assumed whatever stress I had in my life had to do with what was happening in the moment. But I didn't realize that it hadn't actually processed all the grief. So I started having um health challenges over time and you know, like food allergies one after the next and so many different things. And it was strange because I, you know, I rarely even caught a cold or anything like that. So it was very um, it was definitely a big change in uh lifestyle and the things I'd have to consider going to a restaurant, having these conversations, looking at the ingredients. And it was, I didn't know that it was because I was um I I had a feeling it was stress related, but I didn't know it was from uh the the grief. So the good news about having all those health challenges is that there's nothing that a doctor could do to help me. So I started meditating and doing yoga and trying all these other modalities that I'd never done before. When he passed away, I had no tools for stress management, you know. So that really was an interesting journey. I learned a lot about myself, but I knew there was something missing because I just couldn't believe that these things were like basically helping me survive. Sure. And they were not helping me turn my health around completely. Um, and just other things in my life. Everything felt like there was some kind of block. So, unbeknownst to me, after he passed away, I developed this um kind of a defense defense mechanism where I didn't want to lose. So I shrunk back, I shrunk my world smaller. So it felt like I had these big goals, but they were not really looking back at the goals I had before he passed away, it was it was not quite there. Um so in that whole journey, I there was a point where almost seven years later, I decided I wanted to move back to the states. So Los Angeles seemed appealing. Uh I moved to LA and just like having that scenery change changed a lot already because my identity was basically shook up, you know, and I moved to a place that's is kind of built on this idea of dreaming big, right?

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Right, right, of course. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Um so that helped a lot, and I realized I had a lot more vitality. Some of my health issues went away just from that. I was like, wow, that's very interesting. There's still a lot of things I wasn't seeing, but a few years later, it really dawned on me. Like I had the end of a romantic relationship, and uh one of my closest friends, platonic friends, at the time, she kept talking about, you know, basically sharing her disapproval of this person. And it was funny, I woke up one day and I thought it's the same dynamic, but the friends imposed.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

You know, I called her and I just said, you know, you have to change or we can't be friends anymore. This is just too much. Um, and yeah, so she has had too much going on. She's like, I can't change. I have my life's impress right now. So it was very challenging because somebody I was close to for so many years, like a decade. Right. Um, but I realized, wow, I finally understood what self-love meant because I read all these books and you know, I'd meditate. I went to the Amazon for plant medicine medicine retreat, all these things that, yeah, they can help, but I didn't have the foundation. And so all that stuff, it was like it was all kind of um undermined because I was missing that self-love piece. I finally realized how can I say I love myself and the two people I spend the most time with were people who would help me stay in this role of a victim. That's when I realized I had a victim mindset even before Bodo passed away, but it got worse after he passed. Um, because obviously it was so strange, like why me kind of situation, why us? And um, but as hard as those things were to look at, like, how did I not see this for so long? There was the best like realizations in my life. Um, everything started changing very quickly. My health started turning around, started doing more advanced med uh version of m meditation or modality. Um and I loved it. And I just decided outside of my business, I'm gonna spend, you know, I was spending three, four hours a day meditating. And that's not including like time reading and writing down like patterns I'm finding within myself, just because, you know, spending that many years trying to like undo things and I was just like, I'm just not gonna do this. And it was an interesting journey, but it was funny because I finally got to a point where I just felt wonderful and every era of my life just fantastic. And I remember getting home one day, walking across the living room, and it just dawned on me like, oh, I just stepped out of the cloud of grief.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

And I just it was shocking. And then the next thought was I have to write a book because you know, I don't regret how long it took me to come out of that. But I wrote a book to help uh other people so they don't get stuck. Um there's like this dangerous period, I like to call it, when something difficult happens. When there's a loss of a loved one, a job, a career, I mean a business, um, anything like that. There's a point where if we don't start to um kind of build ourselves up stronger as we move for move forward, we get stuck in a kind of limbo where we we've been playing small and shrinking back and we can't even see that it's happening. Sure. And that's like it's just a you know, it's a it's an unfortunate place to be. Um so I wrote the book to help people connect to joy faster um and to really, you know, strengthen the relationships with they have with themselves.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Yeah, that's amazing. Your journey is it's incredible, Shinoa. So, Shinoa, you used an incredible word, and I want to talk a little bit about it. You use the word self-love. So for the audience that's listening or watching on YouTube, your definition of self-love, can you explain that a little bit, please?

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Hmm. Oh, that's interesting. Um, I think it's often uh confused with the topic, uh the word self-care. Sure. Like, oh, you know, I am going to watch a movie because that's what I want to do. You know, I'm gonna do these special things for myself. And I think it's important that we do or have fun and do nice things for ourselves. But um self-love, it's it's like looking at how, you know, the love you have for a child, for example, you know, the things that you would say to a child, you know, you you would never err on the side of like hurting that child's feelings and the dialogues that we have with ourselves, we're just like ignoring so many things that we need uh to give ourselves. Uh I would call self-love the opposite of that. It's just really having this unshakable relationship with yourself, unconditional love. Absolutely. You um forgive yourself when you make mistakes, you understand, have understanding for yourself today and for versions of you that were not as wise as you are today. Right. Um and no matter what happens, you know, you know, it's really hard to feel lonely because you have this solid relationship um internally, and you also start to rely less on external validation. It becomes like a nice to have. You just have this really, really um strong base.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Sure, sure. And do you think you gained self-love from practicing yoga, meditating, reading books? You think that's part of it?

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Um well, reading books, you know, there's knowledge, the knowledge piece. Um, there's also knowledge we can get from even doing yoga and meditation if we're paying attention to the realizations we're having inside, right? What insights am I getting? Shed things are, you know, lights being shed on different things.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Um so that that knowledge piece is important, but none of those things can give that to you. You have to take that knowledge and apply it. Um a lot of people, and I was one of them, when I was doing all those modalities and reading all those books, I had all that knowledge, but I couldn't see this very obvious fact that I would hadn't nourished that self-love um piece. So um, yeah, you can't get it anywhere else. And it's really an ongoing relationship, right? Like you don't get married and then stop taking care of the person you married. It's a daily, like you know, kind of tweaking, assessing, like, where am I, how am I showing up in this relationship? What does this person need? What do I need?

SPEAKER_00 12:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

So it it is an ongoing practice for sure.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

It is, it is. It's it's not a easy and I the reason why I asked that question is there's so many people out there that don't understand what self-love is or meditation, even yoga, for example. I always thought going back 10, 15 years ago, when you mentioned yoga and meditation, I will laugh. I go, I don't need that. That's what's that? And it took years and years of understanding the definition of yoga and meditation and what does it do for a human being. Especially your mindset, your body. It it's a completely different experience. And if you're practicing it and you're really taking it seriously, you definitely become a better human being.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Yeah, yeah, you you really can. Um, and again, if you're using the insights, if you're not just showing up, I you know, because I do know people who have like practiced yoga regularly, many yoga classes, but they were never looking in the mirror. There was no self-awareness there. So it just became like a workout.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

Um, and same with meditation, it can happen to a degree if it's like showing up to check off a box. So, you know, I I usually recommend like, okay, if somebody says, Oh, meditate, and someone says, Well, I don't really like to meditate. Well, I would recommend why don't you try different types of meditations and see if there's one that resonates with you. Absolutely. Yeah. So, you know, all these modalities, there's so many useful things, but it's really what resonates with you the most.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Absolutely. And I even think taking a nice long walk to get your mind right, you know, seeing the beauty of the outdoors, you know, trees, nature, I think that changes your your mindset and it approves you as a human being. Sometimes you're off and just take take a walk. Why not? You're having a bad day, do it. And to my personal experiences, I know that have changed my mindset when I'm feeling down or or I'm doubting myself. I do take that walk and and it definitely makes me think differently after that 15-20 minute walk. You know, and it's good. It's good. So Sonora, how do you prioritize joy over happiness?

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Um I used to think happiness was the most important indicator of what's happening in our lives. But for most of those years, um, when I didn't realize I was carrying so much grief, I actually would have told you I was happy if you asked me how I was doing. And I actually thought I was. Um But it's a very logical answer. And I like uh so I prioritize joy because joy is energized happiness. So you can't you can't misread it. You can't think, oh, I'm thinking I'm feeling joyful. It's uh it's effervescent, it's a it's a feeling. Um, whereas I I feel like happiness, we usually measure it by just facts, a set of facts. And so if we're not if there's something we're not seeing about ourselves and our lives in the moment, it's very easy to um fool ourselves into thinking that we're feeling good.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Sure. Yeah, absolutely. So you have um part of your business and your brand, your personal brand. You wanna let's dive into a little bit about your work and what you do and part of your magnetize your personal brand. Let's let's talk a little bit about that so the audience could know where to find you and understand what you do for work.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Mm-hmm. Okay, yeah. Um, so shortly after I finished the manuscript for my book, I was thinking about how we keep hearing so much about the importance of having a personal brand, and it is so important. Um, but the external considerations are usually, you know, the point of the focus. So, you know, what your website looks like, what you're wearing, social media templates. And while those things they do um they do certainly help, but they carry weight. But the most important element is actually the person. Um so I took principles from uh my book and my lived experience because I learned the hard way to develop um basically a system that it's uh developing the person from the inside out. So yes, I help people with messaging and positioning, but that's the end of you know the engagement. The beginning is really the person because my definition of a personal brand is the essence of who you are and how that essence is perceived. So a lot of people think about, you know, how do I how should I show up? I'm going to uh kind of perform in meetings. I'm gonna look at who's a successful person in my field, how do they talk? You know, what are the words they use? What are what is their energy? And it's, you know, that can get people short-term wins, but it's not sustainable because people really connect with other people and they can't connect with you if you're not showing up as who you are. And it goes beyond um, you know, authenticity, it goes beyond that. It goes into like, you know, what are the boundaries you set with people, you know, what kind of clients you're attracting, people who regularly attract clients that are uh who are problematic. It's usually because the energy they're putting out, it's like, you know, when you're not putting um basically, you know, if you're not setting those boundaries in the beginning, that leads to so many issues later on. Um they're like confidence, we work on confidence, um, so many different elements. Cause again, it's like, you know, are you afraid to incorporate the things that you think are interesting in your content online? Do you want to keep it to just speaking about, okay, like here are the facts, here are the facts. But it's like, okay, what will separate you from other people? Like if there's a, you know, 10 of your competitors standing in a row, how are they gonna pick you from that group if you're not showing who you are? Because uh at the end of the day, no matter how big a company is or small, people are doing business with people. People refer people, um, there are people I refer forever who will I will never need their services probably. But I really love the work that they do and their energy. And even the things that they talk about, the personal things they love. Some of those things are things I have no interest in whatsoever. But I love their passion about it and the way other people that are passionate about what they're passionate, how that resonates with them. And so they're always on like top of mind for referral. So it's really about um, you know, you can kind of draw a parallel with uh this conversation we had about self-love. It's really about developing that internal base and then um really sharing that with the world in ways that can make them be more memorable.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Sure, sure. So Shinoa, let's give the audience an example. So let's pretend myself I'm struggling and I don't I need help in a way that I need direction. I need a motivation a motivational pat on the back so I can move forward. Walk walk me through the tools that you would use for to get me to the right path and align myself in the correct direction.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

After something difficult has happened.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Yeah. Um first I would say uh give yourself time to actually feel those feelings. I think a lot of us we just want to fix things quickly. Um and then we carry too much of those emotions we haven't dealt with with us into the future. Um but next I would say like really try to get excited about the the fact that you don't know what's gonna happen next. And you know, when something disappointing happens, a lot of the big fears really like, oh, I thought I had everything under control and I thought I knew how everything was gonna be. And then you feel like you just kind of lost at sea. Um so if, you know, you're dealing with like, let's say, like, you know, a business setback or something like that, I would say, okay, get comfortable with not having all the variables, but start trusting, like, okay, well, even though I don't know what's gonna happen, what can I do that's within my control to start kind of taking those small steps to get to where I want to go. Um, and after that, I'm really gonna talk about self-love. I can talk about that all day long. The self-love piece has to be there because if you're trying to come out of a bad spot, but all day long you're dealing with this internal dialogue that's unhealthy and hypercritical, it's really like driving and pushing the brakes at the same time. You really got to get on your own side. Um, and once you do that, then you start having um a greater level of awareness. And from that greater level of awareness, you're able to make better decisions and you start to see different opportunities and different possibilities that you just can't see when you're just seeing like roadblocks, you're just seeing like doors closing because you're so stuck in um the energy of whatever it is that happened.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Yeah. We spoke about self-love and joy a lot today. So, how can't someone reconnect joy without bypassing their grief?

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Um yeah, I highly recommend first giving the grief sufficient time, not like running like, oh, this thing happened and tomorrow let me read a book to fix it. Like, like you have to really sit with it. Um but I really like how I I really like the power of awe. You know, you mentioned going for long walks. I love long walks too, and it it you know, there's something about nature, right? Um When we connect to things in nature, or we just happen to be in nature, um, spending time there, we see so many things, we experience so many things that really bring us back to a sense of awe. And it can be difficult to a sense of awe if somebody's in grief. But those um environments, it's there's just so much of it. Um, it's hard for it's hard for you to not feel affected by some of it. Um, but for some people, like the early days of, you know, what happened with me with my boyfriend's passing, I I was so far from awe. So I would spend a lot of time in nature, which was good for me, but I was not connecting to all. So I'd say for anyone who's, you know, that that would be a bridge too far so soon, I I would focus on helping other people and not to the point where, you know, you're abandoning yourself. But when we start helping other people, other people we s we see how they respond to that support, whether it's like volunteering or um, you know, there's just so many ways to give back, but preferably giving back in a way that's like uh in person around people and community. When you see the way that something that you've done, how that's affected a person and their emotions, it's it's a really good shortcut for starting to feel those higher emotions again. And of course, it's a benefit for everyone involved.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Sure. Absolutely. It's it's practical, it's critical, you know. Shinoah, are you living the life of your dreams right now?

SPEAKER_01 23:33

I am. Um, I am, and I made sure to ask myself that question before I published my book.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

And I was at that time, and I am now, and it's just like actually a better uh layer or a further layer of that dream life. And I look forward to expanding that to other ones. And I think it's really important that um once we're in a good place that we continue to dream big and we continue to question the size of our dreams. Um, for every area of our lives, kids easily say, okay, yeah, this is what I want. And then you might look back a few weeks later and you're like, why would I only shoot for that? And it's not about, it's not a competition. It's not about, oh, we need to have like these, you know, extraordinary, you know, novel-worthy lives. It's it's not about that. It's really about um becoming, we become more in the process as we reach for these greater things and um these greater aims. It can be even better relationships with our family, better friendships, you know. And so all the intangibles that come along the way, I think in the end they end up being more important than whatever physical things we might uh gain in the process. But that just um it it just really it really expands the quality of our lives, and and that's very important to me.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

Absolutely. I agree. Shonova. So for the audience that's going to buy your book after they listen to this podcast, can you please share an exercise from your book so an audience members could take something away with them after listening or watching this episode?

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Um let's go with um pretending that you're a friend.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Or there you go.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

So not letting uh a single thought um or you know, judgment uh pass through your mind that is not something that would be appropriate for you to say to a friend. Each time you're gonna question it and either drop it or you're gonna turn it around. And I think that's really important as you're um developing a relationship with yourself. And it's like, you know, what, you made a mistake, it's like, okay, yeah, I did, and so what now I just learned and I move on. But we have to start, um, we have to be really vigilant about developing the relationships with ourselves. So I would say if you couldn't say it to a friend and then not expect that friend to get mad at tell you to leave. It's absolutely inappropriate for you to say it to yourself. So just getting really vigilant about that. And so you you won't have to.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's something. Um, you know, I think about the friends I've had throughout my life span. And, you know, it's funny when you in medal middle school, high school, you move on in life, you lose a lot of friends. But then you you might have one or two friends that to to to today you're still friends with, and and it's extremely critical to tell your friends the truth. When you when you want when if they're doing something that they don't want you to tell the truth, it's it's critical that you do tell your friends the absolute truth, even if they don't want to listen or hear it. Because that's what friendship is about. Bringing bringing people together and talking with especially with people that you've known for so many years.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

It's yeah, I agree. I think we often silence ourselves there. Um a lot of people, it's like, well, if I don't say anything, then there doesn't have to be a difficult conversation.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

But it it's much easier to just say the thing.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Absolutely. Shinoah, are you the secret to your success?

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Yes, I believe we all are the secret to our success. And that's yeah. So I I think that's that's really important when people um, you know, a lot of people because of many uh fear-related reasons, they want to work and do the work, but they don't want any of themselves to be in that work. And that is because um, for example, fear of rejection. So if I keep this very like this work very um clinical, you know, this content very clinical, or if I just show up with this as this avatar of a pro professional person, it's not me, then if I don't get X number of likes on my post or people are debating my thought leadership, then it's not about me. And that's really dangerous because we can't make everyone happy. Um, but we also can't um attract all the people who would gravitate towards us, who would resonate towards us, our message, our purpose, um, without expressing who we are. And so, yes, we are absolutely the secrets to our success. Especially in this AI um age, and we're just in the early days now, but people are are craving authenticity. There's so much um fluff and noise out there. So it's like it's not about showing up um as this like perfect, you know, no nobody's perfect, but when you show up with your real voice, people are ready to listen.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

It's great to be authentic, and I totally agree with you. Technology is it's something, right? But if you're an authentic person and honest and real, people could bring that in, bring that together, let's say. When I when I talk to others and I just think about what I'm gonna talk when I'm interviewing you, you should know, or or interviewing others, or even when I'm alone talking to the audience and and recording a podcast, it's so much thought process that goes into it. And again, it took three years for me to create a podcast, and it's because of those reasons, not knowing where to start, being judged, people that I work with, maybe my friends saying, Why are you doing this? It's a waste of time. So it took so long for me to motivate my own self to say I'm stepping forward. And I'm trying, when I say authentic, I'm trying to be as authentic as possible. And I'm learning every episode, even this conversation, Chanel. I learned a lot from you, but it's also just making my mindset so much clearer on how to do better interviews, how to do better podcasting. And it's it's fascinating. I I love it and I enjoy it so much.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

So I'm glad you started your podcast. Yes. There's so much, there's so much we can miss out on because of fear. I mean, it's pretty funny because my very first podcast interview never actually aired. It was um a few years before I wrote my book, and it was related to something very different. It was in the thin tech marketing world, financial tech. And what's wild is uh it was off camera and it was with a colleague who's a friend. So why would I be nervous? But this is when I I still was working on so many things that I have in my program there. And I remembered I just had this visceral reaction of anxiety and everything was fine. And then she asked me a question out of curiosity that was completely outside of what I thought she would ask me. And I just completely like I butchered the interview, like the editor could not fix it. Um, but it's really funny because you know, I could have taken that as like, oh my gosh, that was so stressful. But no, I had to see, okay, why was I feeling like that that day? What was happening in my life, why I felt that was like yeah, I put so much pressure on myself. The next podcast interview I had was the first one since uh writing this book, and it was like people thought I was on podcasts for years. So it's like, don't give up.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Don't give up.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

And we do learn something every time, even as a guest.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Absolutely. You know, talk if I go back to my first episode and today, it's a huge difference. Huge. And it's it's great. You know, I I do enjoy it, and it's it's a great space for people to bring people together. And again, if if your message, my message, touches one person in this world. Shinoah, we did our job. Yes, and that's how I see things, and it's it's amazing, and it's not gonna stop. You and I, with so many others, we're gonna make a change in this world for the better. There's people that need to listen and hear our message and what you and I have to bring to this world.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

So Yeah, for sure. And I hope you're any of your listeners who's who have been hesitating, like just take that step. Try it out.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Sure, definitely. So, Shonowa, besides the episode description, um, just explain to the audience where they can find your book.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Uh my book is uh available on Amazon, Audible, Poffy, Kobo, and Apple Books. Um, it's called Dream On.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Love it.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

How to create the new life of your dreams after upheaval or loss. And it's actually been very helpful to people who also are not in a difficult time in their lives. Um, they just want to dream bigger.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

Sure, sure. So, Shonel, every time I um finish an interview and conclude an interview, I like to ask one final question. What final thoughts or message would you like to share with the world?

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Um no matter what happens, you can always come back from it and reinvention is your birthright.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

I love that. I love that. Thank you.

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Thank you for having me here.

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